Re: organization

[Erik Walthinsen <omega@omegacs.net>]

> So, Omega is planning to 'go public' with seul in the next
> few weeks, give or take.
FYI, I have a paper due Monday, and a final I may or may not need to go to 
(don't ask why) on Tuesday, then I'm basically free.

> Let's be prepared for people, so we can actually retain a
> goodly number of them. I've had too many projects fail because
> people weren't organized at the top.
Right.  We (seul-leaders) need to be in sync and ready to deal with things 
when we do the announce.  Things will get heavy really quick, and I'm sure 
arma's gonna love the stress-test on belegost... :)

> Luka, I know you were reading some books about making projects like this
> succeed...?
I suppose I should go find something to read along those lines too... ;-)

> * Need a real web page
We have the infrastructure (CVS and web servers), just need to put the time 
into the content.

>   * FAQ, both short and long form
We have twoducks' FAQ, we should probably go over it again and see what needs 
to be changed, if anything.  For the short form, we should tag the important 
questions for use as appropriate in announces or whatever.

>   * Some demonstrations of stuff we've done that is useful.
Ken needs to write some docs for xhelp in the right format so we can get our 
first product documentation onto the web.  Ken, the URL will be something 
like http://www.seul.org/doc/dev/help/xhelp/.  You can put anything you want 
there, but keep in mind it will eventually have to be done in whatever 
standard format we use (sdoc or otherwise) so it looks like it fits within 
the site.

>   * Navigatable archives of mailing lists and other information.
I have things set up for the mailing list archival, though they don't work 
perfectly yet.  Searching is the next step for that.  For other things, I've 
been keeping my eye out for decent ways to handle site navigation.  Any ideas 
out there?

>   * (Detailed?) list of goals, both short-term and long-term
We have a start, but I need to get some stuff from luka (I think) before I 
can say that I have everything we've written.  Sometime mid/late next week 
I'll look into it, unless people are interested in it now...

>   * seul-dev-* descriptions, leaders (?)
> * Need .info files for the mailing lists that have real content.
That goes partially with the setup of decent web stuff.  Some of the changes 
I have in mind for sdoc will allow us to have the same source file produce 
different output based on flags on the sdoc cmdline, so we could have a page 
that parsed normally produces the web page with the information about the
list.  Parse it with -DINFO or something like that, and it outputs raw text 
in a .info format.

> * Need to make sure our webserver/mailserver can handle the load
How to test?  Maybe set up bunches of users on cran and other machines and 
start sending lots of mail to a large alias with all the dummy accounts.  Hit 
the site as hard as we can from different source hosts, and see how belegost 
responds once we push it past the 1.0 or 2.0 mark on the loadavg.

> * Need to write the announcement that will go out. Let's make it
>   good. Perhaps tailor to different audiences.
Yeah, we'll have to be careful with how we write it.  I dunno about having 
different messages for different audiences.  I plan to archive all these on 
the site, and it could get messy having to archive different copies of 
roughly the same message.  It might project an air of duplicity if we have to 
tailor it.

> * Need to decide where to send it. redhat-announce, comp.os.linux.?,
>   where else?
c.o.l.a, redhat-announce, linux-admin, debian-announce?, comp.os.windows.??

      Erik Walthinsen - SEUL Project infrastructure/system architecture
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