[seul-edu] DTP Standards

[Manuel Gutierrez Algaba <irmina@ctv.es>]

On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 bill@mail.tasis.ch wrote:
> We can coordinate so that we don't have 2 documents on the same topic.  Other
> areas we can collaborate on is the liscencing and document structure issue. 
> Please read the current guidelines (ignoring all the DocBook stuff) and see what
> you agree with so that our documents will have a standard layout.  

You seem not to have understood my point. It's not about these
guidelines or those. It's about making things the easiest. And
any DTD or structured thing (LaTeX) is a burden. Any writer must
bear that burden and face the job of creating several pages long
doc. That's my point.

> 
> Please also keep in mind that it would be nice in the future to have a way to
> automatically have a search engine sort through and find the relevant
> information a user is searching for.  How does LaTex address this?

The only method that can search effectively I'm aware of is
"Leibniz-chunks". Try to search for "python" in www.yahoo.com
yes, even there, you'll get info from Monty _, the _ snakes and
_ the language.


>  Maybe this
> isn't important, but I hope to have enough docs to have it matter someday.  I
> don't think we need to use each others methods so I won't be doing the 
> excersize.  But I would gladly discuss the other issues in the Doc Standards. 



> We could even rewrite it so that it accomodates both projects.

I proposed LaTeX because I speak LaTeX. Frankly, I don't think
many people will help if we have a complex DTD. Besides, we are
not alone in requiring help, and the "writing-doc-guys" focus in
other areas of the Linux world. Or we make it utterly easy or
we're _alone_.

> 
> So I suggest we review the standard.  Work in on docs using different techniques
> (probably not having overlapping subjects).  However, you can chunk whatever is
> in the current documents -- just follow the liscence.

I'd chunk it, ... If I knew  my effort would be appreciated. The
definitive proof if chunk is a good idea is when people (not you
or me, but "anonymous" people ) starts sending them.

>  When your project
> demonstrates itself to be an overwhelming success then we can discuss a total
> takeover.

Which was first hen or egg?

> PS -- Doug is a good guy (well at least he gets stuff done and is generally
> diplomatic).  I think your comments lead several of us to mistake your
> enthusiasm for agression and ignoring the work (as trivial as it may seem) which
> has been done to date.

I usually agrede what I know. As, I'm not fully aware of your work,
I can't perform any agression.

>  For some of us who have been using the "Internet" since
> the early 80's (okay it wasn't the Internet we know today), we remeber that the
> Internet accomplished many projects and became important from cooperation and
> working together.

The idea is the same, but ... are people the same ?

>  So I think we should discuss this document project with this
> in mind.  I hope you were one of those early users and can remember back to
> those idealistic univerisity days.  But if not, please imagine them.

I'm damnly idealistic.

Regards/Saludos
Manolo
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