RE: [seul-edu] The planned coalition and the functionality of this mailing list.

["Jason Mellen" <jmellen@cfl.rr.com>]

With regards to this, I have updated the tasks on the Wiki page. I might
have missed something, so I would like some feedback as to what should be
added/changed.

The site is at http://www.seul.org:8080/wiki/edu/Education%20Coalition.

jm

ps. I give my vote for SchoolForge as the coalition name
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Jason Mellen
Palm Bay High School
Webmaster / TSA / PTV / NHS
Department Assistant - Vocational Education


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-seul-edu@seul.org [mailto:owner-seul-edu@seul.org]On Behalf
> Of Tony Riikonen
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 11:59 AM
> To: seul-edu@seul.org
> Subject: [seul-edu] The planned coalition and the functionality of this
> mailing list.
>
>
> Teemu told me to take a look at the conversation concerning this
> possible coalition on this mailing list.
>
> To be honest, I don't like the fact that a conversation like this is
> taking place here. It was really hard for me to get an overall view of
> what people think about the coalition and what direction they think it
> should take. I couldn't make any conclusions.
>
> The reason is that most posts to this mailing list are more like
> conversations on the phone between two people, quoting what the other
> one has said. This way people aren't really commenting the topic one by
> one, but commenting just what other people have said and voicing their
> oppinions based on that.
>
> I do understand that using your e-mail client for discussions takes away
> lot of the edge of participating. No logging in, clicking links etc.
>
> This doesn't mean that I think this mailing list is not a good idea, or
> lacking much functionality as a whole. The coalition is just too big a
> topic to be discussed in this kind of environment!
>
> I strongly advice you to take this conversation somewhere else. An
> advanced Forum (BBS) system would fit the needs of this particular
> conversation a lot better:
>
> - All posts would be visible on one page, taking part in a conversation,
> where you can easily see all the posts and quote them, is easier and
> eliminates duplicating ideas too much.
> - Formatting would be more advanced and would work for the posters in a
> good way
> - Different areas of the coalition could be split into functional
> groups, all with their own forums
> - These dirrerent areas would be governed by a group of administrators
> that would also be the leaders of this project. This way topics wouldn't
> stray too far off course
>
> Of course I would love the fact that this conversation would take place
> in groups in our public MimerDesk.
> Even objectively I think our environment would be very useful to the
> group planning and actually creating things according to the decisions
> of the coalition.
> Groups in MimerDesk can have the following shared tools:
> - Calendar
> - Links
> - Forums
> - Files
> - Reviews
> - Polls
> You can also "monitor forums" in MD. This means that you get every post
> in the forums that you are monitoring in your e-mail inbox.
>
> This is definitely not shameless promotion and I'm not saying that our
> environment is the best way to go. I'm asking you to have an honest look
> at the capabilities of our environment and compare them to the needs of
> the coalition at this phaze of the process. This is no time to be
> stubborn and stick to old and more familiar ways of doing things.
>
> Even if you decide to go with another environment for the planning and
> development of this coalition I will do everything I can to help make
> the most of this great coalition idea! If instead you stick with this
> mailing list, I don't know how eager I will be to help OR how far you
> can actually get. This is a limiting factor =(
>
> --
> Tony Riikonen
> www.mimerdesk.org