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Subject: Re: [seul-edu] wine testing efforts
From: Harry McGregor <micros@azstarnet.com>
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 07:13:44 -0700 (MST)
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On Wed, 22 May 2002, Matt Drew wrote:

> Harry McGregor wrote:
> > All of the Edmark software can be worked around, by running it as a
> > window, and having the kids windowshade between areas.  This has worked
> > for the past 3-4 years, though I have not looked in to the exact wine
> > issues that cause it.
>
> Matt == wine noob
>
> How do I run in windowed mode?  Red Hat Linux 7.3 operates with a wine
> service running and the kernel module binfmt_misc to ID the files --
> currently I just run the executable, the kernel module picks up that it
> is a Windows executable, and calls wine.  I should be able to pass
> command line parameters somewhere in the call, though -- I'll look into it.

It's a command line switch when running the wine executable.

micros@hp-xh485:~$ wine --help
Invoking /usr/bin/wine.bin --help ...
Wine 20020509

Usage: /usr/bin/wine.bin [options] [--] program_name [arguments]
The -- has to be used if you specify arguments (of the program)

Options:
   --debugmsg name  Turn debugging-messages on or off
   --dll name       Enable or disable built-in DLLs
   --dosver x.xx    DOS version to imitate (e.g. 6.22)
                    Only valid with --winver win31
   --help,-h        Show this help message
   --managed        Allow the window manager to manage created windows
   --version,-v     Display the Wine version
   --winver         Version to imitate
(win95,win98,winme,nt351,nt40,win2k,winxp,win20,win30,win31)
Wine exited with a successful status


You use either --managed or also an unlisted one is -desktop 640x480 (or
any other resolution.

I don't work with RedHat (any version) right now, as I have been using
debian for way to long... I might go ahead and try installing it under
VMware to help out with this.

Also the small downloads from Edmark.com really should be tested.  I
demoed several of them in January at Linux World Expo, during my session
on the Corbett project.

> > Also if you run full screen, depending on your window manager, you can
> > use alt-tab to force a redraw of the screen.
>
> No dice with this -- sawfish on GNOME.  Is this a KDE thing?

Right now, we are using IceWM for the desktop, without gnome or kde
(though we have both sets of libs setup).

> Matt

		Harry

>
> > 		Harry
> >
> > On Tue, 21 May 2002, Matt Drew
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>One of the major things I've run across in the Red Hat pilot is that
> >>most of the schools would really like to keep running most of the
> >>educational software they have.  If they are interested in moving to
> >>Linux, right now this means Wine (with a couple of exceptions).
> >>
> >>Here are some preliminary Wine testing results from different sites here
> >>in North Carolina.  Test platform was RHL 7.3, updated with the 0512
> >>build of of the basic Wine (obtained from http://www.linux-easy.com/daily/).
> >>
> >>If anyone has tried any similar applications or has done some serious
> >>testing, I'd love to hear about it.
> >>
> >>We should probably database-ize this at some point. :)
> >>
> >>Note that the commercial Codeweavers Crossover product
> >>(www.codeweavers.com) is known to handle Office much better than the
> >>basic Wine.
> >>
> >>*****
> >>
> >>Microsoft Office 2000:  Partially functional
> >>
> >>Office 2000 installs fairly well.  DO NOT install the Office Assistant
> >>-- he will crash Wine everytime he starts up.  If you don't have an
> >>Everything Red Hat Linux install, there are complaints about fonts --
> >>looking into this.  Even with the font problems, the apps seem okay.
> >>Known working:
> >>
> >>Word 2000
> >>Excel 2000
> >>PowerPoint 2000
> >>
> >>OLE functionality (cross-program transfers, like putting an Excel
> >>spreadsheet into an Word Document) does not appear to work.  Access and
> >>FrontPage both require IE 3.0 or higher -- the IE 5.0 installation
> >>included with my CD did NOT work, so those two are out for the time being.
> >>
> >>This is probably the easiest of applications to replace (OpenOffice.org,
> >>StarOffice) in the grand scheme of things because most people do not use
> >>90% of the included functionality.  The major block we've run into is
> >>that some business education units concentrate on Microsoft
> >>certification and application-specific training.
> >>
> >>*****
> >>
> >>Riverdeep Pre-K software:
> >>
> >>Riverdeep/Edmark "ABCs and 123s" -- seems to be fully functional on 7.3
> >>(with updated wine)
> >>
> >>Riverdeep/Edmark "Trudy's Time and Place House" -- partially functional
> >>on updated RHL7.3, has a redraw issue that prevents proper function.
> >>
> >>Riverdeep/Edmark "Sammy's Science House" -- partially functional on
> >>updated RHL7.3, has a redraw issue that prevents proper function.
> >>
> >>Riverdeep/Edmark "Millie's Math House" -- partially functional on
> >>updated RHL7.3, has a redraw issue that prevents proper function.
> >>
> >>Riverdeep/Edmark "Travel the World with Timmy! Deluxe" -- nonfunctional
> >>under updated RHL7.3, needs DirectX 7.0 or better(winex?)
> >>
> >>Riverdeep/Edmark "Thinkin' Things: Toony the Loon's Lagoon" --
> >>nonfunctional on RHL7.3, but also nonfunctional on Windows system, so
> >>status is unknown (corrupted CD?  incompatibility with Win98?).
> >>
> >>
> >>I was disappointed in how this turned out.  Most of this software is or
> >>was very recently Win3.1 compatible, which would imply better Wine
> >>compatibility in my mind.
> >>
> >>*****
> >>
> >>Orchard Software:
> >>
> >>Nonfunctional.  The demo installs, but apparently the database fails to
> >>initialize and you can't get to any of the lessons.  I'm still working
> >>on this one, because it is important here in NC.
> >>
> >>*****
> >>
> >>NCS Mentor for Virginia Schools:
> >>
> >>Mostly functional.  A couple of minor display issues, but the program
> >>works, even running off of a Samba share.
> >>
> >>*****
> >>
> >>SIFS -- a Windows-based Student Information System in use in Virginia.
> >>Appears to be fully functional, but probably needs further testing.
> >>
> >>*****
> >>
> >>SIMS -- a DOS-based SIS.  Folks here have it running with
> >>dosemu/FreeDOS, there are issues with printing (should be solved) and
> >>with backup, which is done with a Zip disk.  We also have contact with
> >>the maintainer, so this should be okay.
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Matt Drew
> >>Red Hat, Inc
> >>Education Pilot Tech Coordinator
> >>(919)880-7736 (cell)
> >>(919)754-3700 x44192
> >>mdrew@redhat.com
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Harry McGregor, CEO, Co-Founder
> > Hmcgregor@osef.org, (520) 661-7875 (CELL)
> > Open Source Education Foundation, http://www.osef.org
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matt Drew
> Red Hat, Inc
> Education Pilot Tech Coordinator
> (919)880-7736 (cell)
> (919)754-3700 x44192
> mdrew@redhat.com
>

--
Harry McGregor, CEO, Co-Founder
Hmcgregor@osef.org, (520) 661-7875 (CELL)
Open Source Education Foundation, http://www.osef.org

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