Re: [seul-edu] Announcing the Tux Typing 0.9 Release

[Harry McGregor <micros@azstarnet.com>]

On thing to keep in mind, while it's easy to attack M$, the way to win
these debates is to bring up the benifits of _BOTH_ sides, fairly, and
evenly.  I have several MS people I can run this by to make sure all
statesments are 100% true, etc.

Linux/OSS will win in the end since it's a better mouse trap, not be cause
it's "Not M$".  Also keep in mind while on one level, SUN, IBM, etc are on
our side, they also have their own plans for ASP based tech in education,
that might or might not be interoperable...

			Harry

On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Fyoozen wrote:

> The new licensing scheme backed by UCITA (in MD and VA) and the DMCA and the
> actions that M$ is taking on software piracy will indeed figure quite
> prominently into the picture. Cost of support and ownership are huge issues.
> With commercial options ranging from Terminal Services to individual
> licenses, the average Joe will have to look towards alternative methods of
> production. We are only talking OS at this point. Wait until they want
> apps!!
>
> Willy Gates is the king of cha-ching! It's going to come from somewhere! I
> am interested in seeing how XP will play with LILO. Wonder if they will use
> the NT or 2000 boot model?
>
> Anyway, back to the original topic, I intend to try Tux typing this weekend.
> I'll have my wife test it. She actually types and has used similar
> commercial type products. I use four fingers and two thumbs trying to ease
> into it for the last 15-20 years.  ;-))
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeff Nelson <jtnelson@emirates.net.ae>
> To: <seul-edu@seul.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [seul-edu] Announcing the Tux Typing 0.9 Release
>
>
> > I, for one, will be very interested in seeing your document.  I need to
> > convince the head of a nonprofit I work with that Linux is applicable to
> an
> > educational project in Colombia.  He believes that MS solutions are best,
> but
> > I think the sustainability issue is an important one, especially now that
> the
> > new MS licensing schemes are going to remove the Colombians' ability to
> > pirate at will.
> >
> > It's small, but I have a presentation on the same topic at
> > http://linux.innoved.org/linux-tesl/
> >
> > > Since my paper is basically a "Why Linux in Education?" paper, as well
> as a
> > > "Here's how you do it!", I was pointed here by Karl and Roger. I have
> been
> > > soaking up ideas and topics to add to the final outline. Which should be
> > > totally completed by next week. I have also had some assistance and
> support
> > > from Miguel De Icaza, and notes from when Eric Raymond spoke at NoVaLUG.
> > >
> > > Mrs. Tim Bogardt is doing the translation of Miguel's original paper for
> > > me. I think we will have a good arsenal from which to select. I intend
> to
> > > use this group as a sounding board and proof readers. The paper will
> > > emphasize cost of ownership (long and short term), pluses in terms of
> > > educational value, and implementing a self supporting source for
> > > educational software. I also hope to incorporate a "responsible
> computing
> > > in the community" section in the curriculum section.
> >
> > I can volunteer to do proofing.  (Heck, I'm an English teacher!)
> >
> > Jeff Nelson
>

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