RE: [seul-edu] ISO Phase 3: KaraToJava

["Darryl Palmer" <Darryl_Palmer_Jr@acm.org>]

I haven't asked for the source yet.  It is not available from the common
download menu.  Being that this license is so restrictive, I don't know
why we would need the source anyway.

Darryl

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-seul-edu@seul.org [mailto:owner-seul-edu@seul.org] On Behalf
Of Chris Hornbaker
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:32 AM
To: seul-edu@seul.org
Subject: Re: [seul-edu] ISO Phase 3: KaraToJava

Hmmm...
That's non-free and not even close to OSS. More... Shared Source,
really.

On Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:11:54 -0600
"Darryl Palmer" <Darryl_Palmer_Jr@acm.org> wrote:

> Here is a message that I received from Raimond Reichert, one of the
> developers of Kara.  Are there any questions or concerns that we have
> with the below license?  
> 
> I think we need further clarification on public institutions.  This
> could mean public schools only and not private schools.
> 
> Darryl
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raimond Reichert [mailto:reichert@inf.ethz.ch] 
> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 1:29 AM
> To: Darryl Palmer
> Subject: Re: Packaging KaraToJava
> 
> > Thank you for you fast response.  Yes, the CD is a non-commercial
> > project.  One of the things we need is the license agreement for the
> > program.  Most of the programs that will be on the CD is
> > OpenSource(GPL), but some of them are free for non-commercial use.
It
> > is important that we have the license agreement so that we can show
it
> > to the user before they install it.
> > 
> KaraToJava is not GPL, but free or non-commercial use. I have
translated
> our 
> copyright statement to English:
> 
> 
> Non-commercial use (eg, by public institutions or by individuals)
> 
> The teachings aids of EducETH may be used for free for non-commercial
> use. The 
> teachings aids may be modified for use, but the software must not be
> modified. 
> The reference to the authorship (EducETH plus the authors) may not be
> removed.
> 
> 
> I know this is exceedingly brief, but we do not have a real
> legal-speak-like 
> copyright statement, not even in German. Does the above suffice for
your
> purposes?
> 
> Raimond
> 
> -- 
> Raimond Reichert, reichert@inf.ethz.ch
> Dept. Informatik,  IFW E48.2, ETH-Zentrum, CH-8092 Zuerich
> http://www.tedu.ethz.ch/reichert/
> 


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