[seul-edu] [Fwd: Re: Spreading the word]

[Doug Loss <dloss@suscom.net>]

owner-seul-edu@seul.org wrote:

> >From owner-seul-project@belegost.mit.edu  Fri Aug  3 13:10:57 2001
>
> Subject: Re: Spreading the word (was Re: [Fwd: Re: [seul-edu] Want to presentat
> From: "Satyakam Goswami" <goswami@archeanit.com>
> To: <seul-edu@seul.org>
>
>
> > On Sat, 4 Aug 2001, Michael Hall wrote:
> >
> >> This is simply not practical for anyone but a Linux enthusiast. People who
> >> don't already know and use Linux can't and won't download and install apps
> >> from the internet, let alone change them themselves. Asking maintainers to
> >> change apps is not a very sure way of getting what you need when you need
> >> it.
> >
> > Downloading software from the internet is the way several unixes work
> > (Debian, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, etc).  I could not see using debian without
> > apt-get and I could not see doing a large scale Linux deployment without
> > debian.
>

> any specific reasons on that, are you talking about kickstart installation.
> i do agree it the purest form of GNU/Linux OS. what do u say about progeny??
> >
> >> I believe that a school distribution needs to be developed ... put the CD
> >> in, load the distro, use it ... no mucking around. It has to be that easy
> >> if anyone but the converted is going to use Linux in a big way. Being
> >> Windows and Mac users, most school people (including many IT coordinators)
> >> know very little about computers.
> >
> > While I agree with you that some district IT people can have the combine
> > computer knowledge of a room full of chimps (ok, I might be giving them
> > much credit... The chimps might have more...), to keep a good network
> > running you need a good IT staff (some districts, Portland OR, IIRC, etc do
> > have them, some, Tucson AZ, do not...).  I don't want a simple "linux
> > install"  setup out their for anyone to drop on to a system and two weeks
> > later the system get's OWNED.
> >
> > Running a good debian based (workstation and server)  network takes far
> > less time than a windows network (I have personal experince running Novell
> > 4.x, 5.x, Win9x/ME/NT/2K desktops, NT server, and Linux, in mixed
> > environments the linux aspects (70% of this environement)  takes less than
> > 33% of the time to maintain).
>

> True you may be a pro and you must be doing this for a living i suppose??, you
> must have done this N number of times.What we are talking about is the
> initial learning curve and breakin the mind block in the ppl.
>
> > I do not expect, nor do I ever expect, the end user to be the
> > administrator of the system.  They have too many other things to be
> > concenered with.
> i agree with Michael on this one.
>
> cheers
> S.Goswami
>
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